— When we review history of humanity and history of evolution of different social organizations, we clearly see the idea of sacrifice everywhere. Everything here was built on sacrifice. Sacrifice! Sacrifice in the name of Christianity! Sacrifice in the name of Islam! Sacrifice in the name of fascism! Sacrifice in the name of communism!
How do they prepare the suicide bombers? These kids are told, “Sacrifice yourself here, and you will get everything there! Allah will give you everything!” Everything here is built on sacrifice.
We are dealing with the ideas turned into slogans. A political movement cannot be started without a slogan. This slogan should be simple and easy to understand, such as “Peace to the World!” Take communism or capitalism and you will see the slogans associated with both of them. But they don’t have the keys that we have here. They don’t know that everything here is dual. The slogan “Peace to the World!” will always be opposed by the slogan “War to war!” This is incomprehensible, because a human being, based on his personal program, follows the illusion of the impossible, considering it to be possible and very important. In the process, he starts to consider it to be so important that he will sacrifice his life for it. A human being who fights for peace in reality fights for war. A human being who proclaims love, in reality proclaims hate. Two truths intersect here: the truth of the oppressor and the truth of the victim. And for either one of them to assert his truth, the presence of the other, with the opposite truth, is necessary. It’s precisely on the contrast with the truth of the other that your truth is being built.
— I can’t see how I, being in the victim, provoke the oppressor.
— Your victim is created by the oppressor, and it cannot become stronger or even stay in the same position unless the equal effort is applied from the side of the oppressor. To every action of the oppressor, you, as a victim, will experience guilt, and make even greater sacrifice.
— I don’t get it. Why would I feel guilty?
— You are experiencing the state of guilt, but at the same time you say, “I did it myself.” But you don’t see how you did that. You don’t see how you fired yourself from work. You don’t see how you create the situations you consider to be negative. But who are you? Who did that? Is not it you, your inner oppressor, who did that?
— Who fired you from work? This is difficult to see because roles and personages change constantly here. But let’s collectively call it the oppressor in all the multiplicity of its forms; that’s what we are dealing with. We are not dealing with one oppressor here, but many: one fired you from work, another did not give you something, and the third one offended you somehow. And all of them are in you. We are dealing with your own collective oppressor who creates the situations that attract the external oppressors. You need to see your own oppressor in all the multiplicity of the external oppressors.
— Is everything I do as an oppressor necessary to stimulate my victim?
— You are both the victim and the oppressor. You are one. There are many oppressors around you. They are the projections of your own inner oppressor. But you experience yourself as a victim. Asked, “Who are you?” you answer, “I am the victim!” Asked, “Who violated you?” you answer “This one, that one, and the one over there! There are many of them. I am the victim. I am all by myself!”
— And God forbids someone takes my victim-hood away from me. I will hold on to my victim-hood as hard as I can.
— Yes, because otherwise you will have to feel and to experience yourself as an oppressor.
— I don’t understand this. Why does the victim experience guilt?
— What else should the victim experience? A victim should experience guilt and self-pity. That’s what the victim is for.
— But is seems to the victim that the oppressors are guilty, only the oppressors.
— Yes, in my case, everyone around me is guilty.
— Yes, you get to experience the oppressor through guilt.
— But how? If she is a victim, and someone is oppressing her, then the oppressor should carry the guilt.
— She is experiencing guilt. This guilt is the indicator that points toward her inner oppressor. Self-pity she feels is the indicator of her victim, and guilt she feels is the indicator of her oppressor. However, as she does not see her inner oppressor, she cannot understand what this guilt is about. This is one of those so common illusions here: she says that they are guilty. That allows her to be a victim and to feel self-pity. But the question is “Why do I feel guilty? Why me? They are guilty! Why do I feel this guilt?” You feel guilty because they are you! You experience guilt on the level of your inner state; you do not understand that on the mental level.
On the mental level, you think, “They are guilty.” But the state you experience is guilt. And what your mind builds does not correspond to what your heart experiences. In order to understand what’s going on we need to change the mental picture. That’s what we are doing here. We need to understand that every oppressor you are dealing with in your life is your own inner oppressor, and it is this oppressor, your own oppressor, who experiences this guilt after each act of his oppression.
— I can’t get it. Why do I experience guilt?
— The feeling of guilt comes because I sacrifice something in the name of love. I love a man, and I do everything for him. If I do something that gets in conflict with this love, I destroy this love, and I feel guilty as a result.
— This is called a betrayal here, and for betrayal you experience guilt.
— I confirm this. Based on my experience, this is betrayal, and I should die for it.
— You have to wash off this betrayal with your blood. You should die for it and become a hero.
— Heroes are victims.
— Yes, but victims of what? It is very important to understand what exactly you make this sacrifice for. What is it in your case?
— I sacrifice for the idea.
— What kind of idea? Is it Motherland? Is it Love? Is it money?
— Every one of us is a victim of one fight or another.
— We are victims-investigators and we turn investigation into our habitual game.
— I saw a part of my program which allows me to swell up with self-importance. Having a plain appearance and being fat, I can manipulate a man. I get to feel tremendous self-importance based on this manipulation. I saw how crazy this program is, and I faced a choice: either I serve my Supreme Aspect and transform my consciousness or I stay in this program. Right away I felt I have to choose: this or that. It is as if I have to come home and tell my family members that I leave for self-investigation and I destroy my relationships with them.
— It’s as if a chemist was to come to his laboratory, destroy every piece of his equipment and say, “I am going to go into chemistry!” Our laboratory is where we live. We should nod destroy it. We should be grateful to it. At the end you will come to feel enormous gratitude to everyone who interacts with you, as it is only through them that you can do this work.
We need to investigate this. This is similar to a runner who looks at his legs thinking, “My legs are skinny.” But he wants to become a good runner. So, the first thing he does, he goes to a surgeon and requests his legs to be cut off. “Why?” – “Because I want to become a runner! Those legs are not good enough!” You don’t have to cut your legs off, you have to strengthen them.
— It seems to me that we want to sacrifice self-investigation.
— You don’t want to investigate. You want to become a war hero right away, “I was killed for investigation!” You don’t need to die. What is this? A man says, “I want to open a new law” and he burns himself in the name of this law. Go open this law! No, he wants to become a hero who will open this law.
— We sacrifice in the name of investigation. I frequently hear during seminars and webinars people say that they sacrifice a lot. They say, “I have lost money. I have lost my sexual partner. I have lost my family. What did your investigation gave me in return?”
— In such case, you perceive Pint’s idea as the idea you are going to sacrifice for. And you brag, “I did this and I did that. Where is my pension? I should get more than I spent!”
— And the more I spent, the louder my bragging is going to be.
— Pint did not promise you anything. Nothing is guaranteed here. I can only talk about investigation. That’s what I do. I investigate. If you were self-investigating, you would not say what you have just said.
— Does it mean that we use the ideas of self-investigation to blame?
— We are not dealing with investigation. We are dealing with the idea of investigation. It is similar to Jesus’ idea or any other idea. Certain ideas appear. They gather people around them, and then these people start to sacrifice something for those ideas. Otherwise, an idea is not going to be materialized here on Earth. There should be a sacrifice on Earth. Something will happen and manifests itself here through this sacrifice. How did the political and religious organizations so widespread now form? They all went through periods of sacrifice. It cannot be any other way. It can’t happen any other way here. This principle is fixated so strongly in us that we apply it in our own life. Only this principle and nothing else. It is being shown to us everywhere: in the literature, in the movies, and in the classic art. We learn through classics and we become what we learn. It can’t be any other way. We turn into what we study. Everyone wants to play his own Desdemona in his life drama.